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June 24, 2009

Pizza a Casa Mia – Part 2: Neapolitan Style Pizza

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I need to start off this post by making an admission. I’ve not been fortunate enough to sample ‘the real deal’ that is authentic, officially classified and approved, neapolitan pizza. I’ve certainly read about it with great enthusiasm and have some idea of ‘the ideal’ but I suspect until I visit Naples, my efforts will be at best an homage to the great tradition that is ‘pizza napoletana’<italic>.
Neapolitan pizza is a very special food that represents the rich culture and heritage of its birthplace. The techniques and tools used in making this style of pizza are inseparable from the ingredients specific to the region. One could pore over the minutiae of such traditional techniques, but it boils down to this: the strict guidelines as laid out by organisations such as ‘Verace Pizza Napoletana’<http://www.pizzanapoletana.org/> place ‘authentic’ DOC <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denominazione_di_origine_controllata> Pizza Napoletana largely out of reach for the (non-italian-resident) home baker. If you wish, as some have, to obsessively pursue authenticity then you’re probably going to end up tracking down expensive flour, San Marzano DOP tomatoes, buffalo mozzarella, build a wood fired oven etc. It’s not for the fainthearted!
All of which sounds like a rather pessimistic start to a post. However, not to worry! My starting point for the recipe below was an attempt to get as close as possible to making a neapolitan style pizza in an unmodified domestic electric oven with readily available supermarket ingredients. After much experimentation, a LOT of reading and some burnt fingers(!) I have come to the conclusion: while it may not be feasible to make a facsimile pizza, I believe by using simple ingredients, and building a method around them to bring out the best flavour possible, you can get extremely satisfying results. The spirit, if not the pizza law of Naples can still inspire and inform the home baker to make great pizza.
Makes: 4 pizzas (11″- 12″ diameter)
This recipe takes about 21 hours from start to finish. It may seem a little complicated but actually involves very little work. I’ve drawn up an example schedule to clarify the order of events:
0:00 Convert storage starter to biga naturale; Mix 50% hydration autolyse.
4:00 First biga feeding; Mix 75% hydration autolyse.
8:00 Second biga feeding.
12:00 Third and final biga feeding.
16:00 Mix final dough.
16:20 Stretch and fold dough in bowl.
16:40 Stretch and fold dough in bowl.
17:00 Stretch and fold dough and form into a ball to ferment for a further hour; Prepare oven.
18:00 Turn on oven; Divide and shape dough into balls and proof (optional refrigeration of dough at this point); Prepare Toppings.
20:00 Turn on broiler (and leave on).
20:15 Start stretching and shaping pizzas. Bake for 2 to 3 minutes and, if possible, leave 10 minutes between each pizza.
Total dough ingredients:
615g flour (50/50 mix of King Arthur unbleached bread flour and Hodgson Mill all purpose)
397g water
15g sea salt
12g storage starter (100% hydration)
Over the years I’ve tried many different flours and combinations including 00, all purpose, bread and even pastry flour. The blend I’ve used in this recipe is a 50/50 mix of King Arthur unbleached bread flour (higher protein, malted hard wheat) and Hodgson Mill all purpose flour (lower protein, unmalted soft wheat). My choice was partly based on the selection of flour readily available to me in my local supermarket (US).
Toppings:
Margherita – tomato, sea salt (apply sparingly!), fior di latte (fresh cow’s milk mozzarella) or mozzarella di bufala, fresh basil, olive oil.
Marinara – tomato, sea salt, oregano, sliced garlic, fresh basil, olive oil.
‘Filetti’ – sliced cherry tomatoes, fior di latte or mozzarella di bufala, garlic, sea salt, fresh basil, olive oil (inspired by the pizza of the same name at ‘Una Pizza Napoletana’<http://www.unapizza.com>)
A note on preparing the tomato sauce:
Use good quality canned, whole tomatoes (purists will use San Marzano DOP, but there are plenty of other excellent products out there). Squeeze excess moisture and seeds from the tomatoes before crushing or blending until smooth. Pass the sauce through a sieve to remove any additional seeds and there you have it! Simple!
Start by mixing a 50% Hydration autolyse which I’ll call ‘Biga Food’ for reasons that will become obvious: Mix 234g flour with 117g water until you have a smooth dough. Leave this dough covered with lightly oiled plastic wrap at room temperature (70-75F). It will be used to feed the biga at 4 hour intervals.
Now prepare the biga naturale by mixing 12g mature 100% hydration storage starter, 12g flour and 3g water and ferment in a covered container for 4 hours in a warm place (80-85F).
After 4 hours take 24g of the biga and mix with 36g of the ‘biga food’. Continue to ferment in the same manner at 80-85F.
Meanwhile prepare the 75% Hydration Autolyse by mixing 369g flour and 277g water in a bowl until evenly combined. Leave this autolyse in a covered bowl at room temperature (70-75F) for 12 hours while continuing to build up the biga naturale.
Feed the biga again at 8 hours with 90g of the ‘biga food’. Continue to ferment at 80-85F.
Feed the biga one last time at 12 hours with 225g of ‘biga food’ (same fermentation temperature as before).
When the biga has matured (at 16 hours) you can mix the final dough:
369g biga naturale
All of the 75% hydration autolyse
15g salt
Fold/knead together the ingredients gently until evenly mixed and rest the dough for 20 minutes. Try to squeeze out any lumps with your fingers.
Knead the dough in the mixing bowl by taking the dough from the edge, stretching and folding it over the centre. Continue working around the edge of the dough (turning the bowl with your other hand) until you have stretched about 30 to 40 times.
Rest the dough for another 20 minutes.
Knead the dough as before, one more time.
Shape the dough into a rough ball and leave to ferment for a further hour.
Prepare a 12″ pizza stone by placing it in the centre of a 15″ pizza pan and arranging lava rocks (on the pan) around the stone.
Place the assembled stone and lava rocks on the highest shelf (closest to the broiler).
Divide and shape the dough into 4 balls (roughly 250g each). Avoid shaping the balls too tightly or you may find it difficult to stretch the final pizza.
Proof the dough balls for 2 hours at room temperature (70-75F) or alternatively refrigerate them for up to 2 days.
When using refrigerated dough, rest the dough balls for about 2 hours at room temperature before shaping.
Preheat the oven on the maximum setting (500-550F) for 2 hours.
10 minutes before shaping the pizza, turn on the broiler.
Shape your pizza base <video>, add sauce and toppings and transfer the pizza to a peel. Alternatively shape the pizza base, transfer to the peel and lastly add sauce and toppings.
Carefully slide the pizza off the peel on to the stone. Don’t worry if a few lava rocks get shifted slightly.
Cook for 2 to 3 minutes until the edges are puffy and blistered and the sauce/cheese are bubbling.
Hint: Since the lava rocks can get in the way, I’d recommend using a small pair of tongs to aid in removing the cooked pizza from the stone.
Serve and eat immediately!
Due to the extreme heat involved in baking these pizzas, the pizza stone is  liable to crack. I would recommend getting a 12″ pizza stone expressly for the purpose of baking this style of pizza. The cracked stone can be re-used so long as it is supported by the larger aluminum pizza pan.
While the recipe was specifically developed for a standard domestic electric oven, I see no reason why the dough could not be used to make pizzas in a wood-fired oven. If you do happen to try this recipe in such an oven, please drop a comment and let me know how it fared. Of course, I’d love to hear from anyone who tries this recipe. Your feedback is always much appreciated.

Pizza Margherita

BreadBakingDay #21 - Pizza Party and giveaways for 2 years anniversary - last day of sumbission July 1st I need to start off this post by making an admission. I’ve not been fortunate enough to sample ‘the real deal’ that is authentic, officially classified and approved, neapolitan pizza. I have a picture in my mind of ‘the ideal’ but I suspect that short of a visit to Naples my efforts will be, at best, an homage to the great tradition that is pizza napoletana.

Neapolitan pizza is a very special food that represents the rich culture and heritage of its birthplace. The techniques and tools used in making this style of pizza are inseparable from the ingredients specific to the region. One could pore over the minutiae of such traditional techniques, but it boils down to this: the strict guidelines as laid out by organisations such as Verace Pizza Napoletana place authentic DOC Pizza Napoletana largely out of reach of the (non-italian-resident) home baker. If absolute authenticity is your aim then you’re probably going to end up tracking down expensive flour, San Marzano DOP tomatoes, buffalo mozzarella, build a wood fired oven etc. In other words, it is a pursuit for the true obsessive.

Pizza Marinara

All of which sounds like a rather pessimistic way to start a post. However, not to worry! My starting point for the recipe below was an attempt to get as close as possible to making a neapolitan style pizza in an unmodified domestic electric oven with readily available supermarket ingredients. After much experimentation, a LOT of reading and some burnt fingers(!) I have come to the conclusion: while it may not be feasible to make a facsimile pizza, I believe by using simple ingredients and building a method around them to bring out the best flavour possible, you can get extremely satisfying results. The spirit, if not the pizza law of Naples can still inspire and inform the home baker to make great pizza.

Pizza 'Filetti' 2Pepperoni Pizza

Makes: 4 pizzas (11″- 12″ diameter)

This recipe takes about 21 hours from start to finish. It may seem complicated but actually involves very little work. I’ve drawn up an example schedule to clarify the order of events:

  • 0:00 Convert storage starter to biga naturale; Mix ‘biga food’.
  • 4:00 First biga feeding; Mix 75% hydration autolyse.
  • 8:00 Second biga feeding.
  • 12:00 Third and final biga feeding.
  • 16:00 Mix final dough.
  • 16:20 Stretch and fold dough in bowl.
  • 16:40 Stretch and fold dough in bowl.
  • 17:00 Stretch and fold dough and form into a ball to ferment for a further hour; Prepare oven.
  • 18:00 Turn on oven; Divide and shape dough into balls and proof (optional refrigeration of dough at this point); Prepare toppings.
  • 20:00 Turn on broiler (and leave on).
  • 20:10 Start stretching and shaping pizzas. Bake for 2 to 3 minutes and, if possible, leave 10 minutes between each pizza.

Total dough ingredients:

  • 615g flour (50/50 mix of King Arthur unbleached bread flour and Hodgson Mill all purpose)
  • 397g water
  • 15g sea salt
  • 12g storage starter (100% hydration)

Over the years I’ve tried many different flours and combinations including 00, all purpose, bread and even pastry flour. The blend I’ve used in this recipe is a 50/50 mix of King Arthur unbleached bread flour (higher protein, malted hard wheat) and Hodgson Mill all purpose flour (lower protein, unmalted soft wheat). Both of these flours were available in my local supermarket (US).

Toppings

Pizza Margherita Ready For OvenPizza Marinara Ready For Oven

  • Margherita – tomato, sea salt (apply sparingly!), fior di latte (fresh cow’s milk mozzarella) or mozzarella di bufala, fresh basil, olive oil.
  • Marinara – tomato, sea salt, oregano, sliced garlic, fresh basil, olive oil.
  • Filetti – sliced cherry tomatoes, fior di latte or mozzarella di bufala, garlic, sea salt, fresh basil, olive oil (inspired by the pizza of the same name at Una Pizza Napoletana).
  • Pepperoni (pizza alla diavola) – tomato, parmigiano reggiano, fior di latte, pepperoni, roasted red pepper, fresh basil, olive oil (something of a departure from classic neapolitan pizza especially with the use of pepperoni!).
  • Anything else you fancy! Avoid loading the pizza too heavily with toppings or it will not cook thoroughly.

A note on preparing the tomato sauce: use good quality canned, whole tomatoes. Purists may favour San Marzano DOP, but there are plenty of other excellent products out there. Squeeze excess moisture and seeds from the tomatoes before crushing or blending until smooth. Pass the sauce through a sieve to remove any additional seeds and there you have it! Simple!

Method

  1. Start by mixing a 50% hydration autolyse which I’ll call ‘biga food’ for reasons that will become obvious: mix 234g flour with 117g water until you have a smooth dough. Leave this dough covered with lightly oiled plastic wrap at room temperature (70-75F). It will be used to feed the biga at 4 hour intervals.
  2. Now prepare the biga naturale by mixing 12g mature 100% hydration storage starter, 12g flour and 3g water and ferment in a covered container for 4 hours in a warm place (80-85F).
  3. After 4 hours take 24g of the biga and mix with 36g of the ‘biga food’. Continue to ferment in the same manner at 80-85F.
  4. Meanwhile prepare the 75% hydration autolyse by mixing 369g flour and 277g water in a bowl until evenly combined. Leave this loose mixture in a covered bowl at room temperature (70-75F) for 12 hours while continuing to build up the biga naturale.
  5. Feed the biga again at 8 hours with 90g of the ‘biga food’. Continue to ferment at 80-85F.
  6. Feed the biga one last time at 12 hours with 225g of ‘biga food’. Allow it to ferment as before.

Biga Naturale And 75% Hydration AutolyseFinal doughDough balls

When the biga has matured (at 16 hours) you can mix the final dough:

  • 369g biga naturale
  • All of the 75% hydration autolyse
  • 15g salt
  1. Fold/knead together the ingredients gently until evenly mixed and rest the dough for 20 minutes. Try to squeeze out any lumps with your fingers.
  2. Knead the dough in the mixing bowl by taking the dough from the edge, stretching and folding it over the centre. Continue working around the edge of the dough (turning the bowl with your other hand) until you have stretched about 30 to 40 times.
  3. Rest the dough for another 20 minutes.
  4. Knead the dough as before, one more time.
  5. Shape the dough into a rough ball and leave to ferment, covered, for a further hour.
  6. Prepare a 12″ pizza stone by placing it in the centre of a 15″ aluminum pizza pan and arranging lava rocks around the stone.
  7. Place the assembled stone and lava rocks on the highest shelf, closest to the broiler.
  8. Divide and shape the dough into 4 balls, roughly 250g each. Avoid shaping the balls too tightly or you may find it difficult to stretch the final pizza.
  9. Proof the dough balls for 2 hours at room temperature (70-75F) or alternatively refrigerate them for up to 2 days. When using refrigerated dough, rest the dough balls for about 2 hours at room temperature before stretching.
  10. Preheat the oven on the maximum setting (500-550F) for 2 hours.
  11. 10 minutes before shaping the pizza, turn on the broiler.
  12. Stretch out your pizza base to a diameter of 11-12 inches. Add sauce and toppings and transfer the pizza to a peel. Alternatively shape the pizza base and transfer to the peel before adding toppings.
  13. Carefully slide the pizza off the peel on to the stone. Don’t worry if a few lava rocks get shifted slightly.
  14. Cook for 2 to 3 minutes until the edges (cornicione) are puffy and blistered and the sauce/cheese are bubbling.

Serve and eat immediately!

Pizza StoneDough BallPizza base

Other notes:

  • Since the lava rocks can prove an obstacle, I recommend using a small pair of tongs to aid in removing the cooked pizza from the stone.
  • Due to the extreme heat involved in baking these pizzas, the baking stone is liable to crack. I would recommend getting a 12″ pizza stone expressly for the purpose of baking this style of pizza. The cracked stone can be re-used so long as it is supported by the larger aluminum pizza pan.
  • While this recipe was specifically developed for a standard domestic electric oven, I see no reason why the dough can’t be used to make pizzas in a wood-fired oven. If you do happen to try this recipe in such an oven, please leave a comment to let me know how it fared. Of course, I’d love to hear from anyone who tries this recipe. Your feedback is always much appreciated.
  • Please be careful if you decide to ‘trick out’ your oven. Messing with the thermostat can result in some v. high temperatures and the potential for cracked oven windows as well as some nasty burns. I can’t personally recommend it and this recipe doesn’t require any oven modification.

Pizza 'Upskirt'Pepperoni Pizza SlicePizza Marinara Slice

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41 Comments »

  1. Yum …yum … drool … drool …
    Looks insanely tempting! It makes me want to make it too ….

    Comment by elra — June 24, 2009 @ 3:23 pm | Reply

    • Thanks Elra – you should make it definitely!

      Comment by foolishpoolish — June 24, 2009 @ 3:43 pm | Reply

  2. Those pies are stunning. Simply f**king stunning. Amazing that you did that in a home kitchen oven. Your results are obviously the product of your hard work with the dough. Congratulations. You should open a pizzeria Napoletana pronto.

    Ciao,

    Paulie Gee

    Comment by Paulie Gee — June 24, 2009 @ 4:37 pm | Reply

    • [Blush] Thanks Paulie!
      For anyone who’s reading this and hasn’t checked out this guy’s pizza – wood fired oven, true dedication, amazing looking pies!

      Comment by foolishpoolish — June 24, 2009 @ 5:19 pm | Reply

  3. Sounds like you did not get much sleep when doing the pizza dough. But the pizza looks so delicious, I guess, it is worth the missing sleep ;-) I am impressed about the result you get from a normal home kitchen oven.
    And the new layout of the blog is very nice, too!

    Comment by Stefanie — June 24, 2009 @ 6:17 pm | Reply

    • Thanks Stefanie. Yes it was tiring although the heat from the oven has a funny way of keeping you alert (mind those fingers!) I’m liking this new WP theme – doesn’t seem so constricted now.
      FP

      Comment by foolishpoolish — June 24, 2009 @ 9:43 pm | Reply

  4. Now look who’s blushing. That’s very kind. Thanks.

    Ciao,

    Paulie Gee

    Comment by Paulie Gee — June 24, 2009 @ 6:29 pm | Reply

  5. WOW!!!
    this pizza is gorgeous!
    i must try this out soon.

    cheers, Leah

    Comment by Leah Weinberg — June 24, 2009 @ 8:39 pm | Reply

    • Thanks Leah. Please do try it, and let me know how it goes.
      Cheers,
      FP

      Comment by foolishpoolish — June 25, 2009 @ 6:32 am | Reply

  6. Your pizza certainly reminds me of the pizza’s I’ve enjoyed in Italy! Kudos, great post!

    Comment by Lucy — June 25, 2009 @ 2:55 pm | Reply

  7. I’m curious about the biga additions. Have you tried just doing a long ferment of the biga and then mixing the dough? Or mixing the dough all at once and doing a long rise? And is this technique based on anything your read or saw? Thanks, Sam

    Comment by Sam Fromartz — June 25, 2009 @ 3:33 pm | Reply

    • Good question and yes I’ve tried doing both a long biga ferment and the more traditional direct dough (long fermentation) both of which yielded ok-ish results. The main problem: both ended up more sour than I’d like (or I think would be associated with neapolitan pizza)* There was also the question of (bacterial) protease which in traditional neapolitan dough is partly countered by a higher than usual salt content (2.5% compared to <2% for most breads) and low hydration (53-60%). These doughs required a LOT of kneading (30-40 minutes by hand) which on the plus side does make a wonderfully extensible dough.

      The method I came up with, in the end, made for easy work (very little kneading) and is kind of a hybrid between Gosselin's Pain à l’Ancienne (yeastless autolyse) and the traditional italian methods for maintaining biga for panettone and pandoro. Sadly it's not something that resembles any pizza dough I've read about or seen so I've not got any real points of comparison.

      Side note: The malted flour (King Arthur) component results in a crust which browns a little more overall than the paler traditional Caputo/00 dough. I suspect 00-based doughs fare better in wood fired ovens than domestic ovens hence my comment in the post about traditional ingredients and method being pretty much inseparable. Sticking to the 'readily available' ethic, I tried a combination of white lily (fine ground, bleached soft wheat), hodgson mill all purpose (coarser grind unbleached soft wheat) and some additional gluten. It came close to a 00 dough colourwise but tasted BLECH!!

      Eek I could witter on all day about this but I hope that goes some way to answering your questions!
      Cheers,
      FP
      * it's possible to reduce the 'sour' by refreshing the starter several times (at 4 hour intervals) before mixing the final dough….but at that point you might as well stick to the regular biga feeds like the recipe above.

      Comment by foolishpoolish — June 25, 2009 @ 4:20 pm | Reply

  8. I wonder if you are getting the sour flavor, because it appears you start with a starter (ie sourdough). If you just started with biga, wouldn’t that prevent the sourness you’re trying to avoid?

    Comment by Sam Fromartz — June 25, 2009 @ 6:35 pm | Reply

    • Oh I see! Got it. Yeasted Biga. You could use that for sure and no, it would not require repeated feeding. Oops, I should have made it clear I was coming from the sourdough/’wild yeast’ angle (and hence Biga Naturale) on this one. Sorry for the confusion!

      FP

      Comment by foolishpoolish — June 25, 2009 @ 6:47 pm | Reply

  9. I was reading an article about Keste in NYC where I ate this week. They use yeast at 1% of total water, mix gently, let rise at room temp for 18 hours – then divide for pizzas. Interesting method. Very nice flavor and yes, salty, probably 3% as you state if not higher. I may try this method.

    Comment by Sam Fromartz — June 25, 2009 @ 9:40 pm | Reply

    • Gosh you’re lucky. Co. & Keste in one week!
      The recipe sounds good! Look forward to hearing how it went.

      Comment by foolishpoolish — June 25, 2009 @ 10:00 pm | Reply

  10. This pizza rocks! Wow, wow, and wow.

    Comment by Susan/Wild Yeast — June 26, 2009 @ 5:00 am | Reply

    • Thanks Susan!
      FP

      Comment by foolishpoolish — June 26, 2009 @ 11:46 am | Reply

  11. Great stuff. I guess I know what I’ll be getting for lunch now.

    Comment by Dan DiMuzio — June 26, 2009 @ 11:57 am | Reply

  12. Thanks Dan!
    Thanks Lucy – one of these days I’ll make it to Naples and sample the genuine article…
    FP

    Comment by foolishpoolish — June 26, 2009 @ 1:34 pm | Reply

  13. BEAUTIFUL results. I’ll have to try the trick with the lava rocks… that might be what my crusts are lacking. I also should try the wild yeast starter, even though I’m kind of terrified of that process.

    Comment by windattack — June 26, 2009 @ 6:24 pm | Reply

  14. how ‘hard’ is your water ?

    Comment by andy — June 26, 2009 @ 9:38 pm | Reply

  15. Thanks windattack. Starting and maintaining a wild yeast starter really isn’t as hard as you might think.
    Check here for an excellent guide on how to start one.

    Andy – I used bottled, purified water.

    FP

    Comment by foolishpoolish — June 26, 2009 @ 10:11 pm | Reply

  16. I am sorry as i havent been thru the rest or your site, but when you say “mature 100% hydration storage starter”, where should i go to get instructions on developing one? Is there an alternative to this? Thx!

    Comment by John in Houston — June 29, 2009 @ 3:42 pm | Reply

    • Storage starter is sourdough/’natural yeast’ starter maintained (fed) on a regular basis. I feed mine twice daily when possible but many people keep their starter in the refrigerator and feed every 3 or 4 days.
      Here are some links showing how to go about making your own:
      http://www.wildyeastblog.com/2007/07/13/raising-a-starter/
      http://www.thefreshloaf.com/handbook/sourdough-starters
      It’s important in this recipe to use starter that is at the peak of its activity (and therefore ready to use). I refer to this as mature storage starter. 100% hydration means the starter consists of, and is fed regularly with equal weight flour and water.
      Note if you are storing starter in the refrigerator, then it’s best if you allow it first to come to room temperature. Then feed the starter once at room temperature. After 2 hours you can divide this into storage starter (to go back in the ‘fridge) and allow the remainder to come up to peak activity for use in the recipe.

      The alternative to using sourdough starter would be using baker’s yeast. This requires a different formula. Here’s a basic one I would suggest using:
      615g flour (same 50/50 mix I mentioned in the post)
      370g water
      16g salt
      v. small pinch instant dry yeast
      Mix the water, salt and yeast together until thoroughly dissolved.
      Gradually incorporate the flour to the liquid, a few tablespoons at a time until you have an evenly mixed dough.
      Rest the dough for 5 minutes.
      Knead the dough for about 30 minutes by hand (about 15 minutes on slow speed by machine) until it develops a smooth, silky consistency and is very extensible.
      Rest the dough for 10 minutes.
      Divide the dough into 250g balls. I suggest very gentle handling and shaping here. Try to form a ’sausage’ shape out of the dough and ’squeeze’ off the dough balls by pinching with one hand (tucking ‘pinched’ ends underneath the smooth surface to form a ball).
      Proof the balls (covered) in a coolish place (70F) for 12 hours – they will probably about double in volume in that time. You can also refrigerate the balls for a few days if you wish to bake at a later date (this arguably also improves the flavour).
      If refrigerating, be sure to allow the dough balls to come back to room temperature before using.
      Hope that helps,
      FP

      Comment by foolishpoolish — June 29, 2009 @ 4:49 pm | Reply

  17. Thank you! That is great!

    Comment by John in Houston — June 29, 2009 @ 4:51 pm | Reply

  18. this post just makes me want to take a bite out of a good pizza!!! beautiful photos!

    Comment by mrs lavendula — June 30, 2009 @ 12:16 pm | Reply

    • Thanks!
      FP

      Comment by foolishpoolish — June 30, 2009 @ 11:16 pm | Reply

  19. Awesome! The crumb looks simply fantastic…….I know I am gonna pour over this site all weekend long. Looks like you’ve set the bar very high. Can’t believe that’s out of a standard kitchen oven. I’m drooling and a tad jealous…..time to get the starter outta the fridge and feed it!

    Comment by baltimoreflats — July 1, 2009 @ 7:16 pm | Reply

    • Thanks!
      You should definitely do it – get that starter out and make some pizza! Let me know how it goes.
      Cheers,

      FP

      Comment by foolishpoolish — July 1, 2009 @ 8:53 pm | Reply

  20. “tools used in making this style of pizza are inseparable from the ingredients specific to the region.”

    agreed with the wood fired oven, but I must disagree about the traditional “copper oil canister.” I’m pretty sure I can swirl olive oil onto the pizza in the “traditional circular pattern” w/o one of those, silly rules! :-P

    I enjoyed using the 00 flour in my pizza, though I did find the oozing fat from the bufali mozz. add enough moisture to not prevent the crispness I wanted all the way through (FYI: I took the recipe directly from a Verace organization publication). I will say this of the double-0-flour, it was the easiest pizza dough I have ever stretched – I know it was less than 2 mm in the center (could see my counter through it). I should’ve turned my oven to broil now that I think about it, instead of baking @ 550F. I will try that this week when I polish off my leftover dough.

    I have heard a lot of discussion back and forth on the merits of using a pre-ferment/starter vs. long cold ferment of straight dough (up to 4 days in some cases) that has certainly piqued my interest in trying the alternative, despite not having a go-to starter just chilling in the fridge.

    Insofar as the pizza oven is concerned: I WANT ONE. Good friend and extremely knowledgeable Joe, of joepastry.com has one in his back yard, and it makes me super jealous (consequently he likes Reinhart’s “neo-Neapolitan” dough from “American Pie” the best). See pictures of awesome oven and delicious looking pizza here:

    http://joepastry.web.aplus.net/index.php?cat=64

    Great post, very informative and excellent job on the pies!

    Comment by nick — July 1, 2009 @ 7:38 pm | Reply

    • Hi Nick,
      I’d agree with the ‘copper oil cannister’. Heathen that I am, I have been known to pour directly, with a thumb over the mouth of the bottle!
      While not all 00 flour is equal, I guess when it comes to pizza we are talking caputo flour (there are others!) . I think the difference between different flours is most noticeable in the charring pattern and colour of the final product.. My speculation is the falling number for 00 flour is consistent with less natural amylase and hence the overall colour will be paler with the ‘leoparding’ being more distinct providing the oven is hot enough!
      The debate pre-ferment vs long cold ferment is again really about tradition vs. modern methods. Some would have you believe it is tantamout to sacrilege to use anything other than a long ferment. While there are differences between them (most noticeably in enzyme activity and build up of acid), the traditional long, *room temperature* ferment as far as I can tell was one borne of convenience and circumstance rather than flavour. Hell, there are pizzerias in Naples that mix, ferment and use the dough in the same day!
      In my opinion, there is what amounts to a logical fallacy in saying ‘long fermentation is good’, therefore longer fermentation must be better. 4 days is extreme and opens up the possibility of inconsistent results which may not be an issue for the occasional pizza maker but is a big deal for a professional pizzaolo. However cold *storage* (at temperatures which halt all fermentation) can actually turn out to be a bonus for a commercial pizza maker…so I guess there are two sides to that.
      Then of course there is the debate over starter provenance…which I’m going to limit myself to saying: if one believes it tastes better or more authentic, then who am I to argue? ;-) Ack I could go on forever about this but ultimately whatever works for whomever can only be a good thing, I guess!

      Thanks for the kind comments.
      Cheers,
      FP

      Comment by Foolish Poolish — July 1, 2009 @ 8:19 pm | Reply

  21. You are sure you are not a Pizzaiolo? Your Pizza napoletana looks so perfect, I’m drooling!

    Comment by zorra — July 3, 2009 @ 11:14 am | Reply

    • Thanks Zorra! I was pretty happy with the pizza although as always I think there’s room for improvement. My burnt fingers tell me I’m still quite far from pizzaiolo material! :) I look forward to reading the round-up of BBD #21

      Comment by foolishpoolish — July 3, 2009 @ 4:28 pm | Reply

  22. I’m awed, what a stunning and mouth watering pizza, and the biga just makes it that much more unique!

    Comment by lisamichele — July 6, 2009 @ 11:42 am | Reply

  23. Wow! Looks very nice! A real great pizza!

    Comment by Bea — July 8, 2009 @ 9:31 pm | Reply

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  25. Pizza looks awesome. Great crumb and char. I’ll definitely have to give this one a shot in my oven. I have a few questions, thoug.

    1) If I don’t have a starter, could I substitute a poolish?
    2) Do you cook the pizza with the broiler on the whole time? If so, how do you prevent the broiler from shutting off periodically.

    Thanks!!

    Drew

    Comment by Drew — July 22, 2009 @ 2:30 pm | Reply

    • Hi Drew
      Thanks! To answer your questions -
      1) Yes you could substitute a poolish. However, since the multiple-feed biga stage is specifically to create a mild tasting sourdough biga, I’d recommend using a yeasted biga instead. Mix 123g water, 246g flour and the tiniest pinch of yeast to form your biga. Mix the 75% hydration autolyse at the same time. Allow each to rest/mature for about 12 hours before mixing the final dough.
      2) Yes the pizza is cooked with the broiler on all the time. You can prevent the broiler shutting off by opening the oven door just enough to allow hot air to vent (cold air to come in) and trip the thermostat before closing the door again. Do this over a period of 10 minutes and your stone will be plenty hot! However, I generally find this to be a bit overkill. The broiler typically will come on by itself, without any intervention every 2 minutes or so (Your mileage may vary of course depending on your oven).
      Hope that helps you. Let me know how it goes or if you’ve got any other questions.
      Cheers,
      FP

      Comment by foolishpoolish — July 22, 2009 @ 6:08 pm | Reply

  26. I am from Italy and I can tell you: your pizza look gorgeous and actually very similar to the one you can eat in Napoli….
    ciao!

    Comment by michele — August 6, 2009 @ 6:02 pm | Reply

    • Thanks Michele!
      One day I hope to make it to Napoli and try the real thing.
      Cheers,
      FP

      Comment by foolishpoolish — August 6, 2009 @ 7:06 pm | Reply


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